Curse

Avarre · Apr 12, 2006, 01:21 PM // 13:21

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And with Factions spells coming out, Images of Remorse will fit perfectly in this build for a -4 degen that costs as much as Parasitic.

He has 16 illusion listed in the build, I thought that would give -5 (its -4 at around 12), so I was wondering whether I had been wrong.

Um... power drain is good but you need skill? That is kinda the point of bringing it, no? Condering it gives anti-caster capabilities beyond straight degen, I don't see why you wouldn't bring it in favor of drain enchant, especially as the build is one you have time to watch targets for spells.

What if... · Apr 14, 2006, 10:08 PM // 22:08

If were considering improving the build using factions skills, why not use mantra of persistance and Illusion of Pain? I realize the healing at the end of the duration is a pain, but I read somewhere that a target can only last a short while with max degen (20 seconds?). So, you could apply PP and wait for the deep wound to kick in an then drop Illusion of Pain to add pressure. Combine it, perhaps, with Feast of Corruption or Soul Barbs to finish the job before the end of IOP's duration and its GG. This might be kind of fragile and more a spike than degen, though.

Hella Good · Apr 15, 2006, 02:41 AM // 02:41

Problem is some1 can remove the IoP. It is better to focus on fairly spammable relatively low cost hexes (Conjure/IoR) that will still give max degen, can be spread around, can be reapplied if needed, don't have any negative drawbacks. Mantra of Persistance makes IoR last quite awhile and makes it extremely cost efficient and effective.

Eaimirth Etaivella · Apr 15, 2006, 04:49 AM // 04:49

At the moment; ignoring retriggering hexes (ss, empathy, backfire) images of remorse is the most energy efficient spell in the game. It would be a shame not to abuse it.

Wretchman Drake · Apr 15, 2006, 03:59 PM // 15:59

After finally playtesting this build, I've made it more effective with the Additions of Migraine and Mantra of Persistence and stacking Migraine and Conjure Phantasm on a target will really make them wither away with no hex removal. Plus with Migraine it adds some pressure to your target.

I've playtested and it works great in RA especially, and could be useful in TA. It's good to put Migraine on a tired out monk later in battle along with Conjure Phantasm that each well last longer than 20 seconds.

Gregos Nielsen · Apr 15, 2006, 09:45 PM // 21:45

Hmm, have you tried this build in PvE? If you did, how well does it perform?

Wretchman Drake · Apr 16, 2006, 02:30 AM // 02:30

I haven't but I use a Degen N/Me with LT and Conjure and it works fine. This build should work fine as well but not as good since my Degen N/Me has Life Transfer and Life Siphon for healing, in this build only Ether Feast will help. So unless you don't have a monk, this build should work great in PvE.

Cymboric Treewalker · Apr 16, 2006, 04:11 PM // 16:11

Energy Tap -- requires only that they target has energy...

Drain Enchant -- requires the target to have an enchantment...

most reliable energy management of those two is Tap.

Valkyries · Apr 16, 2006, 04:37 PM // 16:37

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Originally Posted by Cymboric Treewalker

Energy Tap -- requires only that they target has energy...

Drain Enchant -- requires the target to have an enchantment...

most reliable energy management of those two is Tap.

I can't say I really agree. I mean, for sure I see your point. However, how often in PVP do someone NOT have an enchantment? Its much more useful to strip someone's enchant than to make them loose just a couple of energy.

I play with Drain Enchantment a ton, and I have played with Energy tap quite a bit as well. I prefer the DE, because I always find someone to use it on, especially in HA/GVG. Energy Tap maybe a preference in RA/TA but even then I find DE still really powerful. The overall skill of what it does is just simply better. The best part about energy tap is the 5 E cost. The 3 second cast though really is a bit of a pain and a lot of times it can just get intrupted and be a burden where as DE Is lightning fast and no one is stopping that from happening.

Wretchman Drake · May 01, 2006, 08:34 PM // 20:34

Finaly I was able to update this build. This build should work quite well, and give you a reason to do Primary Mesmers. Good luck and have fun with it.

Dragannia · May 01, 2006, 10:59 PM // 22:59

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Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake

After finally playtesting this build, I've made it more effective with the Additions of Migraine and Mantra of Persistence and stacking Migraine and Conjure Phantasm on a target will really make them wither away with no hex removal. Plus with Migraine it adds some pressure to your target.

I've playtested and it works great in RA especially, and could be useful in TA. It's good to put Migraine on a tired out monk later in battle along with Conjure Phantasm that each well last longer than 20 seconds.

Crippling Anguish would be better for Degen purposes; slowdown is a very powerful effect.

Wretchman Drake · May 02, 2006, 12:59 AM // 00:59

Yes but Migraine just simply puts more pressure on the caster and you will most likely be casting it on a caster, a cripple is no big deal if you have no melee guys...